i got new socks today......almost dropped them in the toilet when i got home and now there's a hole in the toe of my green ones..........grrrr and they're BRAND NEW TOO.........grrr

oh yeah a little something
clandestine uncovered
before sing the sorrow came out, they released a 10" disk, and called it "336". No one could figure out why, and it was a bit of a secret. All they would really tell us was that when Sing the Sorrow came out, it would all be made clear. Well, they dropped some hints in the meantime. One time while upgrading the messageboard, they left links to astrology, numerology, and the chinese zodiac. Another time, a hint was dropped... they said that "336" wasn't really important.. it was just "what comes before." It came before Sing the Sorrow. Meaning that STS was "337." And we really had to figure out what 337 meant.
Also, there were the rabbits. They had posters and stuff with rabbits on them. And other weird mentions of rabbits. In the liner notes from STS, it says, "Rabbits are roadkill."
So Sing the Sorrow came out, and no one could figure it out. Then their short film, "Clandestine" came out. It had the cd, the dvd short film, and a 60 page little hardcover book, which was like a big colored version of the cd booklet. The whole style is of faded, worn pages. The pages are old and stained... brownish stains.. But as you flip through the book, you begin to realize that some of the stains and smudges are actually red. All of the stains are actually blood, and dried blood.
Now, in the film, it starts with Hunter running through the forest. He looks at a paper, and keeps running. The paper gets dropped, and you see that it says Room 37 at 3:33. He runs into a classroom full of kids. The board says, "nothing" he runs into the class and takes the box from the table. its quite a small box with the sing the sorrow logo on it. Then you see Adam playing cards. The box is on the table (in the pot), along with a watch, keys, a magnifying glass, a bottle of dark fluid, a white chrysanthemum which is also important in chinese culture, and a live rabbit once again important in chinese culture, the rabit is daveys zodiac animal its the animal that wont be reincarnated. Adam has 336 in his hand. He wins, takes the box, and goes to leave, but the box falls apart in his hands. You see that two of the guys at the table have actually smuggled away the real box. It flashes to Dave in a cafe. He is writing in a book (the book that comes with Clandestine... it's like the cd booklet, but better), with the box on the table. A strange woman comes up and kisses him, stealing the box. She leaves, and he goes back to writing. He notices the box is gone, and leaves. It flashes to Jade walking into the classroom, (the board says "I am no one at all." and through another door in the class, which leads him into a house. You see him snooping through the house. Going upstairs, going through drawers, looking behind dressers, looking for the box etc. He goes into the bathroom, and the tub is filled with a black fluid. He reaches in, and pulls out the box. You see a hand at the door of the bathroom trying to open it. They unlock the door jade jumps into the tub, going down, down into the water. He comes walking out of the water on a beach. He walks across the sand to a small table where all the members sit waiting. He places the box on the table, and they open it. End of film. You never see what is or isn't inside. Throughout the movie, it flashes the clock, which, for every person's scene, is on 3:33, and at the very end, I believe it's 3:37. at the end of it theres breathing and some people think this is related to the 3rd song on sts, bleed black, some people think that this should be the first song and that it starts from there then the leaving songs on in the right order.

now there are people that spent forever figuring this out, They looked up esoteric astrology, chinese astrolgy, and numerolgy, among other things. Clandestine means something secret or hidden. Esoteric also means hidden.
"Miseria Cantare" is Latin for "Sing the Sorrow."
and i believe spanish for misery singing (fyi-it does mean that in spanish)
3 x 37 = 111. I'm not positive, but I hear that 777 represents god, or perfection. In Transference, Dave wrote, "I'm 111 less than perfection." 777 - 111 = 666. Also, Three denotes divine perfection; Seven denotes spiritual perfection.
In esoteric astrology, 336 represents physical death, and the events leading up to it. There were only 2 songs on the 336 disk. Some of the lyrics of one of the songs say, "We're all now in dying days.... I gave up fighting. I've come to be these halos."

337 represents the act of reincarnation.

This is important: In chinese astrology, Dave is a RABBIT. He was born the year of the rabbit. RABBITS CANNOT BE REINCARNATED. Rabbits are on their last life in this world, and do not have another chance.

In numerology, Dave's life path number is 3. In some middle eastern philosophy, they say that there are 37 deeds you must do before you can reach nirvana, or peace/heaven, and be done on the wheel of life.
The whole cd goes in a circle. The sounds at the end are backwards. They end in the same beat and same key as the beginning of the cd also played it backwards and it's the same riff as played foward really wierd. It's one continuous loop.
The front of the album has the symbol of falling leaves. Falling leaves represent death, and returning to the earth. The back of the album has a symbol of water. Water represents rebirth. All of the art for this album has been circles. Another symbol of something repeating, of reincarnation. Also, at the beginning of the film, Hunter is running through the forest (leaves), and at the end, they're on the beach (water). The black fluid in the bathtub relates to "Bleed Black." The chrysanthemum on the card table relates to "The Great Disappointment." It's all crazy.

Basically, the whole theme is death and reincarnation, and the fact that he CANNOT reincarnate again.

Look at the song lyrics. Although each song as a whole isn't about this, there are specific lines that corroborate this theory. Example: "discarnate." "Nothing from nowhere, I'm no one at all." Discarnate means being bodiless. Like floating in time and space. Essentially, being... nowhere. Nothing.
There are other questions as well, like why are the leaving songs out of order? I believe that the album BEGINS with Bleed Black. That would put the song as beginning after Clandestine. There was a theory that the box at the end was just empty. Well, the first words are, "I am exploring the inside. I find it desolate."
So, if it starts with Bleed Black, the breathing at the beginning could represent life. (Being born, perhaps?) That would put the song whose lyrics say, "recreate me," and more importantly, "I know I died that night, and I'll never be brough back to life once again." So, playing that as the first song, and going full circle around the cd, that puts the leaving songs into order, and ends the cd with The Leaving Song Pt II.
Now, some people think that Dave "dies" over the course of this cd. Some say that the "death" (if there is one) occurs during This Time Imperfect. That would make sense that Miseria Cantare would be the beginning... from nowhere. Bodiless... Then comes The Leaving Song Pt II, whose very first lyrics say, "don't waste your touch, you won't feel anything." The spanish in the song says, ""Yo he estado aquÃ_ muchas veces antes y regreso" ("I have been here many times before and I return"; "Y regreso aquÃ_ otra vez y comenzo" ("So I return here once again and I begin". Like being reborn. The circle of birth and death and rebirth. "I saw its birth. I watched it grow...."
Also the fact that the poem is read as in the 3 stages of life. Like he is aging through it.